How big a deal is swingweight?

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By Anthony N

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  1. Anthony N

    Anthony N
    Toronto, ON

    I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether fitting for swingweight is a MUST.

    If I were to purchase a set of AP2's with KBS tour-v, is it the worst thing to not specify a swingweight and have titleist build whatever
    is stock (since I have no idea what swingweight is ideal for me, and I don't think I'm going to be able to get custom fit).

     

    Is this a game changer?

     

    Thanks, much appreciated.

  2. Tom P

    Tom P
    Park City, UT

    Not sure I would call swingweight a game changer. If you know the swing weight of your current set and like the "weight" = feel of the clubhead during the swing , then order the same swingweight.

    Personally I like D2, and find anything less feels to light...and I like to play light shafts, around 100g

  3. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military

    Tom P said:

    Not sure I would call swingweight a game changer. If you know the swing weight of your current set and like the "weight" = feel of the clubhead during the swing , then order the same swingweight.

    Personally I like D2, and find anything less feels to light...and I like to play light shafts, around 100g

    Here is an interesting article that I read regarding your question and thought I might throw it in.  Always find interesting information through google if you dig deep enough.  Cheers, Chuck.  

    What is Swingweight Used for in Golf?

    The key application of swingweight is in matching the clubs within a set. You want all your clubs to feel the same weight during the swing. If you are replacing a club or adding one, you want the new club to match the swingweight of your current clubs.

    But how important is swingweight, really? Recreational golfers who fancy themselves equipment "experts" - you know the type - might argue that it is very important, and for many golfers, they are right.

    But not everyone is convinced that swingweight is something most recreational golfersneed to lose sleep over.

    Lamanna, for one, says, "In my experience, most players can only sense large differences in swingweights, and even Tour pros have a hard time telling the difference in swingweight between clubs with different shafts."

    Lamanna says the focus seems to be shifting back to total weight as the key weight measurement. "It seems in the past 10 years there has been a reduced emphasis on swingweight by club manufacturers. The overall weight of the club - in particular the shaft gram weight - is these days the measurement upon which they focus.

    "Research indicates that lighter shafts are, in general, better for the average golfer. Less weight produces shots of greater distance and accuracy for beginning and intermediate players. The low handicappers and pros have higher swing speeds, more control over the movements of the club and they possess an acute sense of 'feel' for the head of the club. The shafts best suited for them typically are higher in gram weight and have heavier swingweights."

    Perhaps the moral is that it is ideal to have a set of clubs that match in swingweight, but for most golfers it is not critical, so long as the swingweights of the individual clubs are close.

    The Swingweight Scale

    Swingweight is expressed with a letter and number; "C9," for example.

    The letters used are A, B, C, D, E, F and G, and the numerals 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 (G goes up to 10). Each combination of letter and number is known as a "swingweight point," and there are 73 possible swingweight measurements on this scale.

    A0 is the lightest measurement, progressing up to the heaviest, G10. If you feel your clubs are too light in the swing, then you'll want to go up the scale; too heavy, down the scale.

    The manufacturers' standard for men's clubs is D0 or D1, and for women's clubs, C5 to C7.

    Swingweight can be adjusted post-production by adding lead tape or changing out components (i.e., going to larger clubhead, or a different shaft or grip, or trimming the shaft). Custom clubmakers can also adjust swingweight in some cases by adding different types of fill material inside shafts at different points, or inside clubheads.

  4. Anthony N

    Anthony N
    Toronto, ON

    Would anyone be able to tell me what the swingweight would be for the KBS Tour-V on the 714 AP2s?

    Thanks.

  5. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military

    According to an article regarding this very club makeup I read about on the internet, a D2.  Hopefully the Titleist gurus will agree.  

  6. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    Anthony N said:

    Would anyone be able to tell me what the swingweight would be for the KBS Tour-V on the 714 AP2s?

    Thanks.

    Hi Anthony,  At standard length with a stock grip, the KBS Tour V's will swingweight about 2 swingweights lighter than a standard DYG S300.  The range would be C9-D1.  We would recommend asking for a D1 if you are trying to get it as close to standard as possible.

  7. Hi Cathi. What would the swing weight be in the AP2s at standard length and stock grip with a KBS Tour (stiff)?

  8. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    Hi Barry, The std KBS swingweights at 1-2 swingweights light, but we can build it to a D2 if you make that request on the order.

  9. Thanks Cathi.  One more question -- will the KBS Tour 105 be available on the 714 AP2s?

  10. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    Hi Barry,  All shafts that we offer in our clubs go through a pretty extensive shaft testing protocol before they are approved for use in our heads.  They are currently undergoing testing and as long as they pass our shaft testing, will probably be a good candidate for addition to our shaft list in the future.

  11. Steve S

    Steve S
    Leominster, MA

    The difference between swing weights (like between a D1 and a D2) is the weight of a dollar bill. Most people can't tell the difference. The important thing is that all of your irons are the same. 

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