Playing golf at Lake Jovita in Dade City,Florida with 20 other golfers approached the 14th hole South Course with wind in face from tee box club selection 8-Iron from distance of 134yds. ball was teed up slightly to hit a knock-down shot ball of choice Titliest Velocity #2 red pin placement up front about 12' off collar ball hit in air playing just like a knock-down ball hit just inside collar aproximently 1'-2' bellow pin and rolled into hole upon hitting pin stick.