Modifying -2 deg flat Lie Angle (718 MB)

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By Clay B

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  1. During a Titleist fitting for the 718 MBs, the rep said that with my draw tendencies (R to L) he recommended that I order them with custom specs for the lie angle set to -2 degrees flat to offset the draw.

    Although this lie angle has helped me add a fade (L TO R) to my shots, I now feel that it requires a drastically flat swing to just get the ball to draw.

    My question is if modifying the lie angle to a different degree (standard or -0.5 deg flat) would jeopardize any of the structural integrity of the club? Also, is modifying lie angle a common practice?

    Thanks in advance, Clay

  2. Joseph M

    Joseph M
    Saint John, New Brunswick

    Modifying the lie angle is very common to provide a properly fitted club- absolutely no impact on club integrity within +/- 2 degrees adjustment from standard
  3. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    The answers to you questions. No. Yes. That is what fittings are for to ensure you have the correct lie.
    My irons are 2* flat.
  4. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Clay B said:

    During a Titleist fitting for the 718 MBs, the rep said that with my draw tendencies (R to L) he recommended that I order them with custom specs for the lie angle set to -2 degrees flat to offset the draw.

    Although this lie angle has helped me add a fade (L TO R) to my shots, I now feel that it requires a drastically flat swing to just get the ball to draw.

    My question is if modifying the lie angle to a different degree (standard or -0.5 deg flat) would jeopardize any of the structural integrity of the club? Also, is modifying lie angle a common practice?

    Thanks in advance, Clay

    You can always have them fine tune the lie angle. For instance, bending it flat by 1* from a standard lie or upright 1* from a -2 lie angle. Even 1/2* of lie angle adjustment can make a difference.
  5. What "feels" like a drastically flat swing may or may not be the case. Any and all golf swing changes feel awkward at first and adjusting to clubs that are set up different than you are used to will undoubtedly feel drastic at first even if it is the "new correct way" for you to swing. If you still have doubts check with another clubfitter or teaching pro. If a lie angle change is still needed you can bend the MB's no problem. Titleist also runs a shade upright compared to other companies for their standard lie.
  6. Agree totally Lou. I am breaking in my new T200's as of this week. During my fitting the thought was that no lie adjustment was needed even though the strike was a bit high and towards the toe. Not sure if I should leave them or tweek the a bit and in what direction. Any thoughts from the group?
  7. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    TUser said:

    Agree totally Lou. I am breaking in my new T200's as of this week. During my fitting the thought was that no lie adjustment was needed even though the strike was a bit high and towards the toe. Not sure if I should leave them or tweek the a bit and in what direction. Any thoughts from the group?

    Tweak them is a lot cheaper than adding a shaft extension. It is $5 per club at most places for a lie angle adjustment. The cost of extending the shaft is $4 for the extension, the price of the grip and labor and that could be $20 per club. Plus extending 1/2" adds 3 points to swingweight. If toward the toe, adjust 1* upright and observe ball flight. Sometimes 1/2* is a difference between solid contact and either spanking it or chunking it.

    The fitting club gets one in the ball park for lie angle. When your clubs come in, they should refine the lie angles.
  8. Joseph M

    Joseph M
    Saint John, New Brunswick

    If any lie adjustment, the high hit would suggest a correction in direction of upright, however, I would be more concerned that perhaps the shaft needs to be lengthened to produce a more centered hit- this also will make the playing length more upright i.e. may "kill two birds with one stone". Perhaps a further fitting session is in order?
  9. Hey Joe,
    Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned that my shafts are already + 1/2 in length, but with standard lie. Could be the adjustment to 1/2 to 1 degree up may do the trick. Any more thoughts?
  10. Joseph M

    Joseph M
    Saint John, New Brunswick

    I would still look at additional length to achieve centered hits and adjust lie if required- your clubs being standard can be adjusted up to 2 degrees upright or flat as required. I would note that an additional 1/2 inch will increase swing weight 3 points- if necessary you can offset by adding weight to the grip end- 5 grams = 1 swing weight point.

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