AP1 716 vs AP1 718

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By Peter M

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  1. Hello,

    please, those lucky putting hands on the new AP1s, could you specify more details than visible from the specs on the webpage? Particulary, I am interested to know the comparison to AP1 716, which I know well. It is clear that AP1 718 have 1 degree stronger loft. What about size of the head, width of the sole and the offset? Is it the same as in 716, or also these three key parameters were shifted to be more game improvement as it was? I am seriously considering buying it, I was waiting for 718 to come, but if Titleist moved more towards png G or cally XR, the maybe I need to look more on AP3, at least 7i and less...

    Thanks!

    Peter

  2. Speedy

    Speedy
    Newmarket, NH

    Hey Peter, yesterday I got fitted for both the AP1 718 and AP3.. I can tell you the look is MUCH better when comparing the 716 and 718 AP1. The head does appear a little smaller but performs about the same, for me at least. IMO and based on the performance, I didn't think it was worth looking into or upgrading my existing set of 716 AP1. That's ME though and my swing...

    NOW, the AP3.. WHOLE different story.. The look and performance is amazing.. Everything about this club is the real deal and highly recommend checking it out...

    All i can tell you is to wait until you can try them out. The whole line is amazing and you won't be disappointed...
  3. Tim D

    Tim D
    kokomo, IN

    Speedy
    I have my club fitting scheduled September 14th and am really looking forward to seeing all then new offerings in person. When mention the AP3 were amazing can you elaborate. I am currently playing 714 AP1 and when I got fitted was on the fence between the AP1 and AP2. My fitter explained I hit them equally as well but I chose the API. I truly love the look of the AP2 but I am a solid 13 Hdcp and questioned myself if I could hit the AP2 consistently. I am very excited to hit the AP3 and compare them to my current set.
  4. Bomber3

    Bomber3
    Lake St Louis, MO

    Military

    Tim D said:

    Speedy
    I have my club fitting scheduled September 14th and am really looking forward to seeing all then new offerings in person. When mention the AP3 were amazing can you elaborate. I am currently playing 714 AP1 and when I got fitted was on the fence between the AP1 and AP2. My fitter explained I hit them equally as well but I chose the API. I truly love the look of the AP2 but I am a solid 13 Hdcp and questioned myself if I could hit the AP2 consistently. I am very excited to hit the AP3 and compare them to my current set.

    Tim & Peter,
    My fitting is scheduled for Sept 7th and I will be focusing on the AP1 and AP3. I'll try to give you as detail a write-up as I can. I'm currently playing 714 AP1s, but was fit for the 716 AP1s earlier this year. Like you, I'm anxious to try the 718s.
  5. Thanks guys! Meanwhile I found out that the offsets of AP1 718 are the same as for 716. The size of heads should be quite progressive (hard to tell how they compare with 716) and soles probably should not be wider, at least I have not seen such comment in any review... still, I would appreciate any further direct comparison from the first hand...
  6. Speedy

    Speedy
    Newmarket, NH

    Have a great time Barry!!! can't wait to hear what you think
  7. Bomber3

    Bomber3
    Lake St Louis, MO

    Military
    So I had my fitting today....as always a great experience working with Brian Coe. After warming up a little bit, Brian handed two clubs to me and said to go ahead and hit them both while he finished setting up. I started off hitting an AP3 6 iron... club was easy to hit and ball flight was nice with decent distance (I hit about 8 - 10 shots). Next I hit the AP1 6 iron and it was easy to hit as well, also with a nice ball flight, but better distance (like the AP3, I hit about 8 -10 shots).
    When Brian was finished setting up we moved to the actual fitting hitting 7 irons. Started with the AP3 with an stiff TT AMT Red shaft. Hit it well but distance was less than my current 714 AP1s, so we went to the R300 Red and distance improved consistent with my AP1s and ball flight was really nice. Overall, numbers were good, but not eye popping. Repeated the process with the AP1 but skipped the stiff shaft. Feel was great and all my numbers improved over the AP3. So then Brian starting adjusting lie angle up (+2*) and I hit a bunch of shots like that. I hit them well, but not quite as solidly as the standard lie angle. I was also able to try the NS Pro 880 (specs are very similar to the TTAMT Red R300). Hit that shaft well, but for the difference I'm upgrade cost the Red R300 was the better shaft for me. So back in June I had another fitting session with Brian for the 716 AP1s...so different shafts in each case, but the irons seem very similar in ease of hitting and solid impact...ball flight was similar, but again two different shafts. There have been some minor tweaks to the 718s and one that really stood out to me was the beveling of the top edge...makes the top line look much more streamlined....not as thin as the AP3 top line, but still very nice.
    Overall, I don't think you can go wrong with either club, it's just a matter of which works best for you.
  8. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    Barry B said:

    So I had my fitting today....as always a great experience working with Brian Coe. After warming up a little bit, Brian handed two clubs to me and said to go ahead and hit them both while he finished setting up. I started off hitting an AP3 6 iron... club was easy to hit and ball flight was nice with decent distance (I hit about 8 - 10 shots). Next I hit the AP1 6 iron and it was easy to hit as well, also with a nice ball flight, but better distance (like the AP3, I hit about 8 -10 shots).
    When Brian was finished setting up we moved to the actual fitting hitting 7 irons. Started with the AP3 with an stiff TT AMT Red shaft. Hit it well but distance was less than my current 714 AP1s, so we went to the R300 Red and distance improved consistent with my AP1s and ball flight was really nice. Overall, numbers were good, but not eye popping. Repeated the process with the AP1 but skipped the stiff shaft. Feel was great and all my numbers improved over the AP3. So then Brian starting adjusting lie angle up (+2*) and I hit a bunch of shots like that. I hit them well, but not quite as solidly as the standard lie angle. I was also able to try the NS Pro 880 (specs are very similar to the TTAMT Red R300). Hit that shaft well, but for the difference I'm upgrade cost the Red R300 was the better shaft for me. So back in June I had another fitting session with Brian for the 716 AP1s...so different shafts in each case, but the irons seem very similar in ease of hitting and solid impact...ball flight was similar, but again two different shafts. There have been some minor tweaks to the 718s and one that really stood out to me was the beveling of the top edge...makes the top line look much more streamlined....not as thin as the AP3 top line, but still very nice.
    Overall, I don't think you can go wrong with either club, it's just a matter of which works best for you.

    HI Barry, If you liked the NS Pro 880 AMC - we offer it in a no upcharge chrome version.
  9. Bomber3

    Bomber3
    Lake St Louis, MO

    Military

    Barry B

    So I had my fitting today....as always a great experience working with Brian Coe. After warming up a little bit, Brian handed two clubs to me and said to go ahead and hit them both while he finished setting up. I started off hitting an AP3 6 iron... club was easy to hit and ball flight was nice with decent distance (I hit about 8 - 10 shots). Next I hit the AP1 6 iron and it was easy to hit as well, also with a nice ball flight, but better distance (like the AP3, I hit about 8 -10 shots).
    When Brian was finished setting up we moved to the actual fitting hitting 7 irons. Started with the AP3 with an stiff TT AMT Red shaft. Hit it well but distance was less than my current 714 AP1s, so we went to the R300 Red and distance improved consistent with my AP1s and ball flight was really nice. Overall, numbers were good, but not eye popping. Repeated the process with the AP1 but skipped the stiff shaft. Feel was great and all my numbers improved over the AP3. So then Brian starting adjusting lie angle up (+2*) and I hit a bunch of shots like that. I hit them well, but not quite as solidly as the standard lie angle. I was also able to try the NS Pro 880 (specs are very similar to the TTAMT Red R300). Hit that shaft well, but for the difference I'm upgrade cost the Red R300 was the better shaft for me. So back in June I had another fitting session with Brian for the 716 AP1s...so different shafts in each case, but the irons seem very similar in ease of hitting and solid impact...ball flight was similar, but again two different shafts. There have been some minor tweaks to the 718s and one that really stood out to me was the beveling of the top edge...makes the top line look much more streamlined....not as thin as the AP3 top line, but still very nice.
    Overall, I don't think you can go wrong with either club, it's just a matter of which works best for you.

    A day late Cathi, Brian called in my order on the spot. Thank you for the info though.
  10. ken h

    ken h
    Woodstock, Ga.

    I have a set of 716 AP1s that I have really enjoyed playing. I had the 714s and tried the 716s and saw enough of an improvement to make the change. I have been perfectly happy with the 716s until a coworker bought the 718s with the new Tensi Red shaft. We went to the range at my club and I hit his 6, 7, and 8 irons and was blown away. I went into the pro shop and ordered a new set of irons and they arrived yesterday. I hit the 5 iron and it is very different in feel trajectory and distance from the 716 5 iron. I don't know if it is the shaft of the heads but the 718s feel like butter and go farther. I made a good decision for my game. Hope that helps anyone else looking to improve their game.

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