Been playing since I was 20! I was a product of the Tiger Woods phenomenon!!! Played a brand new course in Columbus, IN this past Friday, August 13th (I live in Dayton Ohio about 45 miles north of Cincinnati) called Otter Creek!! The 8th hole on the North side measured just over 140 yards! I hit a choked down 6-hybrid that usually travels between 130 and 155 yards based on hand positioning! Ball hit approximately 10 feet left and 2 feet below hole high and side checked right into the hole!!!