Time for a change

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By Rex S

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    I have been a Titleist enthusiast for over 20 years. I am a capable golfer with a low handicap that up until recently has only played Titleist equipment what I have discovered through playing other drivers and talking to people in the golf industry is that Titleist drivers are clearly behind other companies. Mainly cally and png. I would agree with that assessment Titleist as a company is also viewed as difficult and arrogant to deal with. I can see that as well. My hope is that the company that I have supported for a number of years will take a fresh approach and release the TS series of drivers and fairways earlier this year so that the whole country has a chance to play them before next year. It could only help the company. Sending out updates really doesnt help anybody. Release the clubs soon.

  2. Rick D
    Weston, WI

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    I'm happy that Titleist does release new club offerings ever 6 months, or so, like some of the other manufacturers. Who can keep up with all of that? Buy a new club that supposed to be the latest and greatest only to be told 6 months later it's obsolete? That's crazy.

    I think my 915D3 is the best club in my bag. Could one of the others get me a few more yards? Maybe. But with a good fitting I've got a driver I don't miss many fairways with and it's plenty long. So why try to fix something that isn't broken? And who can afford to change clubs constantly?

    The one thing, my 714AP2's and Vokey wedges are getting pretty beat up. They may need to be replaced soon. With my aging body, leaking a little distance, I may look at AP3's or even AP1's.
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    I don’t think Titleist drivers are behind other companies. I have the 917D3 and it’s as long or longer than the other companies, and I have tried Epic, G400, M3/4. For me, the 917 instills confidence from the tee and gives me the freedom to swing away.

    Still looking forward to the new models, should be fantastic.
  4. Dale V
    Escondido, CA

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    Wow Rex, guess you are entitled to your own opinion. Me too and my opinion is that Titleist drivers have always been great for me and my game. I'm glad that Titleist has always been thorough about testing prior to release and i have never appreciated the other big company's strategy of overloading the marketplace and making their older versions obsolete so quickly.
  5. Scott D
    Lethbridge,

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    Geez, Rex I have to disagree with you. I have found that Titleist has been nothing but accommodating in any of my dealings with them. Our Titleist Rep in southern Alberta, Ken Arkle, has always been open and honest when I have questions. With respect to the other companies drivers I have always found it is not the arrow but the archer.
  6. Barry S
    Oakville, ON

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    Not quite sure why you would say that Titleist is viewed as difficult and arrogant to deal with.
    In all my dealings with anyone at Titleist, whether it be customer service , road reps, fitting people or anyone else, have all been extremely professional, knowledgeable, courteous, and respectful. Overall, always looking to please.
  7. Don O
    Madison, WI

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    Well, to supply the contrary opinion, I don't feel the need to buy new equipment every year. While some companies bring new equipment like clothing companies bring out seasonal fashions, one has to keep in mind that no company can exceed USGA conforming rules. The journalists whose job is to promote news would really prefer all companies have releases multiple times per year. Just to make their jobs easier. How many trick developments have stayed the test of time? Square drivers? The upcoming releases draw upon a full solid year of experience with the last release to improve the next. Yearly releases only have a reliable 3-4 months of actual end-user experience in deciding what did/didn't work before finalizing a design and developing manufacturing specs. I vote to stay the course, and to note, part of my preference is not all the new whiz-bang 2 paragraph releases of promised 10 yards to buy off the rack products come with a full set of LH options. Only Titleist and png reliably take care of me in their mainline sets. My 917 still works great, and the archer's ability is still my best game improvement, not the arrow.
    Fortunately we all have a right to our own opinion.
  8. drtaylorwright
    Draper, UT

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    Not at all surprising to hear that other companies are saying things about Titleist by the way. I actually support people using other equipment companies so they don't find out how incredibly freaking awesome and addicting it is to use Titleist clubs. I think of them as the purist of the pure, no gimmicks, hacks or oddball crap in, on or around your clubs.
    I think if you like that stuff then go for all the new marketing ploys and tactics. Titleist seems to know what works and not stray to far off that path and I know the professionals don't like too much change either because it works so gosh dang well.
    I got your back TITLEIST!
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    I'm not surprised that there are fierce responses to my post. I will tell everyone that is interesting that I have done multiple on course comparisons of my 917 d2 with an upgraded tour shaft against the Rogue, 2016 M1 and the G400 lst and Max heads and my gamer is consistently behind all 4 models listed. This isn't trackman data. This is actual on course performance. My point is that I'm hoping that the TS series is better and that it is released pretty soon so that the Titleist enthusiasts can try and enjoy it THIS summer. I don't want any more hype or updates. Release the clubs and let us find out if they really are worth the hype. Also if anyone is interested the sales numbers show that Titleist equipment sales are sagging except for the Vokey wedges which are number 1. The pro v line is number 1 by a wide margin and Scotty Cameron is number 1 in the exotic putter line. Outside of that cally is leading almost all sales except they are number 2 in wedge and golf ball sales. Our favorite company has some work to do.
  10. Dale V
    Escondido, CA

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    Not to be argumentative, well maybe to be a little argumentative, total sales leaders do not always equate to the best products. Take the auto industry... Volkswagen is the number one world sales leader in the automotive market. I don't think they have the best cars and knowing they are the sales leader doesn't make me want to head out and purchase a Jetta. If Titleist remains financially healthy and is focused on quality over quantity, I am good with that. I also don't have a problem with early testing and announcements of future releases as opposed to secret testing by other companies and quick releases. I don't see this as hype any more than i see the hype behind buzz word sales gimmicks like "jailbreak" and "twist face". I'm good with hitting my 917D3 this summer and making the TS transition at the end of the year, but that's just me...
  11. Rob E
    San Jose, CA

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    Well said, couldn’t agree more!
  12. No'l
    Palmdale, CA

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    Well said, Dale.
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    If Dale were to actually hit his 917 d3 next to the Epic or Rogue driver I doubt he would call Jailbreak a gimmick. Titleist drivers are behind currently. I hit my 917 d2 and the Rogue subzero in perfect conditions last night and on course the 917 is considerably behind. 2 different golf fitters place the 917 drivers in fourth place. Again I will state that I really want to play a Titleist driver that is comparable to the Rogue. I hope that the TS really stands out. It's time to release the clubs so everyone can see if the hype is legitimate. Open your eyes Titleist Nation.
  14. Dale V
    Escondido, CA

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    Rex S said:

    If Dale were to actually hit his 917 d3 next to the Epic or Rogue driver I doubt he would call Jailbreak a gimmick. Titleist drivers are behind currently. I hit my 917 d2 and the Rogue subzero in perfect conditions last night and on course the 917 is considerably behind. 2 different golf fitters place the 917 drivers in fourth place. Again I will state that I really want to play a Titleist driver that is comparable to the Rogue. I hope that the TS really stands out. It's time to release the clubs so everyone can see if the hype is legitimate. Open your eyes Titleist Nation.

    My last post on the subject. Yes, I have hit the other drivers and yes, all the companies are making good products and with the right shafts and weight settings, any brand can be made to work as shown each week on tour. I don’t doubt you have your driver dialed in best for you but don’t assume I haven’t hit others. I quit renting clubs on travel to golf courses because they don’t fit my game. You keep saying you want to play Titleist drivers but want to say they don’t work for you. Fine, stay with what you feel comfortable with but don’t use our site to bash Titleist drivers or their test and release process.
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    I'm amused that Dale V has taken personal ownership of these threads. If you consider my posts bashing then you can't understand the point I'm trying to get across. The current drivers are behind and I would like to try the TS line sooner than later. Don't just drink the koolaid and realize that there are differing viewpoints that are presented hopefully to help Titleist take a FRESH approach.
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    The COR on all drivers are the same if not they be illegal the only point you could argue companies use different material like carbon fiber to move the weight to hole moi in other words more forgiving. What I like about titty driver is if you miss hot you know where and why others like the rouge I have you can hit it off the hosel and not feel a difference from the sweet spot.

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